Re: Hayai Broadband Pricing On most of the plans, we're actually removing speed tiers altogether: everyone should get just whatever the speed of their line is, so, in most cases 100Mbits or more.Originally Posted by pa1pa1
It only seems fair to have speed tiers if there would be truely unlimited data allowances like are available in Europe, for example, perhaps with the exception of a "lite" plan, so that's what I think we should do.
As I've mentioned in other threads, it costs me about the same amount to send 1GB of data, whether it's at 1Mbits or 100Mbits (excluding electricity, of course). This thinking is incorrect, in my mind. Airtel will let you have 100GB of data for either 1699 @ 1Mbits for 2499 @ 2Mbits, but 50GB only for 2999 @ 8Mbits. Do you think it costs them any more to deliver those bytes at 8Mbits versus at 1 or 2Mbits?
Another way to think about it: imagine you're buying a computer. It has a 2Ghz processor. Do you think the salesman will ask you something like "if you let us throttle the speed, we'll charge you less for the machine". I think not: you always get the full power of the hardware. What you actually *do* with it is not the concern of the store you purchase it from - you're still going to be using 2Ghz whether you're word processing or gaming.
Do I make sense?
Yes... pretty pictures and graphs should do the trick... How long will it take me to download a song? a movie? 1,000 emails? That and/or a product recommendation tool: I plan to "Do a lot of file sharing" versus "I plan to casually browse the net, watch a few online videos and read email" sort of thing...
Again, this speed chart would only really apply to Residential Flat-Rate connections, but the difference between 1 and 100Mbits would be negligible.
Re: Hayai Broadband Pricing Well, if you decide to allow max speed possible and the only limit be the data limit, then with speeds of 100mb or so, we would be tempted to go beyond the data limits dont you think? I feel it would be a pain to keep a check on data transfers.
Or maybe it'll just take getting used to.I could be wrong here, lets see how it turns out.
Re: Hayai Broadband Pricing ^^ What you are saying that more speed will mean you download more. I did raise the same point but then realized that even if you/we are given like unlimited speed (not b/w) we still wont be utilizing it.
See the math is simple, we dont have or do not intend to have TBs of HDD at home citing economic reasons. Now say you need to download a 700 MB Rip of a movie that you intend to watch today night say, then it will take you around 1 hr to download that (considering u have a 2Mbps connection). So you invest 1 hr + in downloading a 2.5 hrs in watching. Now if say hayai provides 100 mbps connection then same stuff is downloaded in seconds but that wont mean you would be downloading tons of movies just because it takes only a blink to download them.
I mean you will invest less time in downloading and more time in watching
And dont say we will download 1080p 25-40GB Raw dumps. Even if we do that where are we going to store all of them. Bluray media will still take time to take off and if you have an Unlimited Hayai type 100mbps connection then you wont consider blu ray media as you know that it will take just some to download that stuff with this speed
Just my opinion
Re: Hayai Broadband Pricing Well its not just downloading, and yea, i might download 720p rips(~4 gigs) instead of dvdrips(dont sue me).Besides, threz youtube, which can chew up a lot of BW. I do realize that more speed doesnt mean i will go on downloading stuff just for the sake of it, so i guess it will just take some getting used to. Coz when i see speeds of 100 Mbps,boy am i gonna go crazy!
Re: Hayai Broadband Pricing ^^ LOL
Ya that is true but will stop as soon as you realize the small pop up on system try which will say "LOW DISK SPACE"
Re: Hayai Broadband Pricing too bad i got 1 TB
Re: Hayai Broadband Pricing this would again open the doors for massive shock bills due to billing errors/abuse or even users whos PCs are infected with viruses or forget to shut their downloads/uploads. we need a guaranteed fixed monthly price no matter what. whether its a Fair Usage Policy or true Unlimited plan but there should be no room for billing errors/disputes to arise.
"Thou shalt not follow the null pointer for at its end madness and chaos lie."
Re: Hayai Broadband Pricing Well, the idea is really self policing in a way. As I've mentioned, it's OK if you go over the limits which you yourself prescribe (now and then), but the point is that people who appear to be blatantly abusing the system would be the only ones to be "punished". If you're sensible and choose a plan which allows say 200GB per month, then you shouldn't have to worry too much.
I think the man has got it. This is the idea: throw more bandwidth at you than you can possibly use and let you figure out how much usage you actually are getting, then pay that amount appropriately.
I thought I would go crazy with 100Mbits too, but... I just didn't. It was far more convenient to just download and have it over with rather than waiting for a day and a half. If I want to watch a movie, I want to watch it now, when the mood strikes me - not tomorrow.Well its not just downloading, and yea, i might download 720p rips(~4 gigs) instead of dvdrips(dont sue me
That's one of the points I've been making all along^^ LOL
Ya that is true but will stop as soon as you realize the small pop up on system try which will say "LOW DISK SPACE"
I've got about 1.5 myself (all full, unfortunately mostly of work), and today I was just looking at new 1TB hard disks. The prices are coming down nicely... tomorrow I'm going to go check out Lamington Road and see whether the selection is better than that at Cromatoo bad i got 1 TB
Re: Hayai Broadband Pricing ^^ No matter how much prices comes down, we wont be having stack of 1/1.5/2 TB 3.5" HDDs at our home. If hayai will be provide such connections, then i suppose having a collection of our movies will be passe. I mean i myself have around 400 GB+ of collection in my external HDDs but with this connection if i intend to watch a movie, i will just stream or download it in seconds.
Moreover as you rightly pointed out "WHEN MOOD STRIKES". I mean if i intend to watch the Harry Potter series in HD just now, with current connection it will take me 2 nights to procure a 720p rip and by that time my whole enthu will be lost.
Ok Ok lets not discuss what we will download
I suppose even if you give me 100 Mbps connection i wont be able to use more than say 200 GB a month. We have a life outside computer too
BTW I will be back to Mumbai in dec, hope hayai arrives before i do so i dont have to wait
Re: Hayai Broadband Pricing ok ok, i was kinda playing the devils advocate. Cant wait for hayai to launch! Any rough estimations as of now?
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