Right now I'm posting from Fedora 7(Just didn't have any other distro ATM, I'm going to download it now.) Can anybody help me? I can't even find a package manager here! The default installer is yum, right?
"shifting to vista" ? you being sarcastic or was that a typo ???
nice pclinuxos review here PCLinuxOS 2007 installation review and first impressions « Tryst with Linux and other Alternatives
and wikipedia page here PCLinuxOS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
it supposedly has multimedia codec support built-in by default, neat... and its KDE based with APT-based backend with its own repositories...
maybe its number 1 coz it has codecs installed by default...![]()
"Thou shalt not follow the null pointer for at its end madness and chaos lie."
Right now I'm posting from Fedora 7(Just didn't have any other distro ATM, I'm going to download it now.) Can anybody help me? I can't even find a package manager here! The default installer is yum, right?
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Get yumex; that makes life real simple.
Code:sudo yum install yumex
ok, posting this from pclinuxos live session under vmware. getting to the point: it does not deserve to be #1 , not more than #3 on distrowatchand no way in hell is it "granny friendly" as sneezymelon mentioned earlier
the bootup screen shows the motto/slogan/tagline as "radically simple" but IMO it does not beat ubuntu for sure.
the live cd bootup is dumb, it does not go straight to the desktop, it asks a bunch of configuration questions as if the installation was started! then instead of going straight to the desktop it gives a login screen with options to login as guest or root, with the passwords displayed on the top-leftdumb like fedora 8
after going into the live cd session, i can see the software collection is pretty good, as good as opensuse, its a kde based desktop. the default theme is like winxp which sucks. plus it might not be as radically simple as it claims, for example, there are 2 control panel icons, one for kde and one for pclinuxos
of course, it has stuff like flash, multimedia etc installed by default and a flash site and AAC audio stream worked from the live session.
i think pclinuxos is number 1 on distrowatch because it uses kde and has a winxp theme and mainly because it has codecs/flash installed by default, which is a good combination for their "radically simple" theme
but after trying it out, i still think ubuntu is #1 for me, followed by opensuse/kde
i would rank pclinuxos as #3 or #4 at the same level as fedora 8
Last edited by vishalrao; November 12th, 2007 at 06:17 PM.
"Thou shalt not follow the null pointer for at its end madness and chaos lie."
hmm, slashdork says mandriva 2008 is out, got to try that as well now
good info in the release notes Releases/Mandriva/2008.0/Notes - Mandriva Community Wiki
Last edited by vishalrao; October 10th, 2007 at 09:35 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
"Thou shalt not follow the null pointer for at its end madness and chaos lie."
I agree here with you, Ubuntu does seem to be simplest...
but a couple of issues i had completely drove me away from ubuntu , opensuse etc...
I use internet which has pppoe , and in none of the distros except fedora has pppoe worked out of the box , without twaeking. Even now my brother installed opensuse 10.3 , reading its good reviews and he told me that getting pppoe working thru Yast is hell!!!
system-config-network in fedora gets the pppoe up and running in a jiffy. since the days of fedora core 3!! Thats the reason why I have still stuck to fedora. And as I speak now, on my new dell vostro laptop I could not getsound working on Sabayon, Ubuntu 7.04 and 7.10beta. It only works on fedora 7 .
I dont criticise any distro here, just a pointer for people who use pppoe based internet thru the cablewallas! and those with exotic soundcards like me !!
The Future is Open ..The Future is LINUX..
Fedora 10 , Ubuntu 8.10
Dell Studio XPS 13 2.26Ghz C2D (P8400) 4GB DDR3 RAM NVIDIA 9400M Atheros Ar928x B/G/N Wireless LED Backlight DIsplay 8X SLot Load DVD+-RW
Dell Vostro 1400 1.6Ghz C2D 2GB RAM NVIDIA 8400M 128MB INTEL 3945 ABG Wireless 8x DVD+-RW
yup, i think you definitely need to test some distros on your own to decide which you preferespecially for stuff (pppoe, desktop effects, sound etc) that might work only on a particular distro...
that reminds me, i need to re-test these 5 distros on a laptop and tablet and re-rank them on these platformsim especially interested in trying opensuse's fingerprint reader and touchscreen modules on a tablet...
the 5 distros of interest to me are ubuntu, opensuse, mandriva, pclinuxos and fedora.
@aniketvb: you mean even steps like these dont work as advertised for dialling? Broadband Howto - Ubuntu India
Last edited by vishalrao; October 10th, 2007 at 02:43 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
"Thou shalt not follow the null pointer for at its end madness and chaos lie."
Well , the issue is that there is no gui for pppoe config. Then there is a pppoeconf ncurses type gui , and there is no way a user would know that such a utility exists!!
Ok, after we invoke the pppoeconf utility, it asks all sorts of questions like a wizard which is good, but it doesnt ask one important thing, "servicename" field for pppoe provider. So if we have multiple acces providers on our LAN, pppoe doesnt work!! Hell I found a way to bypass that by entering the pppoe config values in a conf file , and service name can be given , so ok..but this I could do only after extensive searching on the net.....
After it is configured , there is no gui way to start the connection!! So again go to command line and do "sudo pon "conn_name""
In opensuse , I still havent got net connection working, it always gives me pap auth error
(and the passwd is correct btw!! ) . Yast wont let me edit conf files by hand!!I mean the changes arent preserved if I edit config by hand....
As opposed to all this , in fedora simply start system-config-network, click on new connection, select XDsl from type , enter username , password , servicename fields, clik on save. Then from system-control-network , just select the new connection and click on activate !! tats it...it just works...no hacking and searching needed!!!
As for my sound card , it needs an option passed while loading the kernel module snd-hda-intel . In fedora I just added the option in /etc/modprobe.conf and did service alsasound restart , and sound stated right away. In other distros even after adding this option and rebooting the sound refuses to work :-(
So as far I have seen from my experience with different distros...( I have tried all sorts of ..from arklinux , sabayonetc to standard ones like fedora,ubuntu,suse)
The hardware detecion is best in fedora if you have somewhat exotic hardware...
Last edited by aniketvb; October 11th, 2007 at 12:18 AM.
The Future is Open ..The Future is LINUX..
Fedora 10 , Ubuntu 8.10
Dell Studio XPS 13 2.26Ghz C2D (P8400) 4GB DDR3 RAM NVIDIA 9400M Atheros Ar928x B/G/N Wireless LED Backlight DIsplay 8X SLot Load DVD+-RW
Dell Vostro 1400 1.6Ghz C2D 2GB RAM NVIDIA 8400M 128MB INTEL 3945 ABG Wireless 8x DVD+-RW
Sorry to the guys whom I promised reviews, I'm not testing any distros anymore. This is primarily because I lost all my data in installing SAM Linux, without any fault of mine.
I now know that to test distros and post reviews, you need at least decent hardware. Until I get a hardware upgrade, I'm off the testing thing. And even if I do, I'd rather test things in VMware first and then move on to them as a complete system.
I'm back on PCLOS and happier than ever. I've now become an expert on configuring PCLOS and now I have a separate /home partition too.
http://broadbandforum.in/software-di.../9/#post120310
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having a seperate home partition is great. i realized when i had to format the root partition to install the beta ubuntu. all my configs were restored! that was awesome.
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